Celani Cab and Ardore

Posted on February 14, 2020 by thewineraconteur

I was standing next to Tom Celani and tasting his wines at The Fine Wine Source and God must have been smiling upon at that moment.  The heavens were aligned and it was a delightful moment.  The wine tastings at The Fine Wine Source are not the potentially stuffy affairs that turned me off, in my youth, where someone was lecturing to you and being condescending.  These are more one on one, even when there is a crowd around the wine barrel that is holding the honored wines of the day.  It was two raconteurs bringing up people, events and places and the bond of all the conversations was wine.  A jovial and philanthropic man, who rather than just pledging money will match the funds raised by an event, and he is pushing other like-minded people to reach in and donate. 

Celani Family Vineyards is a small, family owned vineyard and they produce about four-thousand cases of wine annually.  The estate has twenty acres, with seventeen used for wine, as they also have an olive orchard.  The winery produces eight different wines, we were tasting four and I have had the good fortune to have tried seven of their wines.  The penultimate wine for the afternoon was the Celani Family Vineyards Cabernet Sauvignon 2017.  This wine is made using fruit from two respected Napa Valley AVA districts; Mt. Veeder and Coombsville.  Here is a wine that was aged for twenty months in French Oak, of which ninety percent was new. That wonderful nose of black fruit, especially black cherry and blueberries. There were several spices that were mingling in the taste along with supple tannins that made this wine great fresh from the bottle and will be stellar ten to fifteen years from now.

The final wine for the tasting was one that I have heard about was the Celani Family Wines Ardore 2016. There is a meticulous selection process to secure the finest ten barrels of the Coombsville AVA juice.  These ten barrels are then aged in one-hundred percent new French Oak barrels for twenty-two months with no fining or filtering.  The nose was even more concentrated compared to the Cabernet Sauvignon and there were floral tinges as well.   This was a very big, bold wine that was chewy, balanced, with tannins that all contributed to a wine that will probably become a cult wine, since they only make two-hundred-fifty cases and this wine will be great for at least twenty years, if not longer.  My Bride and I figured out what we were going to order and we had to wait for Tom Celani to sign all of the bottles.

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Robusto and Tenacious

Posted on February 12, 2020 by thewineraconteur

There was a Celani Family Vineyards tasting that I was going to at The Fine Wine Source and I even wanted my Bride to come, even though it could be a dangerous trip.  I think everyone puts up with me, when I show up anywhere, but it is my Bride that gets all the cheers, especially in a wine shop.  I may be more cautious and conservative, but when she discovers something that she enjoys, she can be gung-ho and she may have buyer’s remorse the next day, but then it is over.  When we first met, she only drank Chardonnay and usually domestic, and there is nothing wrong with that, since she only ate fish when we first met.  I was a bad influence and introduced her to red meat and red wine, while she enjoys a good steak, she is crazy for a great red wine. 

I have to admit, that ever since I had a real job, I stopped listening to music on the radio during drive time, because I had to know what was going on in the world, so that I, as a clothier could speak rather intelligently with the customers, a trait that has been lost, I have noticed among the clerks that I now encounter.  I lead in with this introduction, because for years I had heard Tom Celani and all the philanthropic work he has done in the Detroit area, long before he had a winery.  Tom Celani is lauded in the Detroit area for his largesse for charitable organizations that he helps in a grand manner.  He and his father ended up creating one of the largest Miller distribution companies in the United States along with other beers and wines.  Tom Celani fell in love with wines, first as a drinker and a collector and finally acquiring a Tuscan-style estate with seventeen acres of grapes and one-hundred-twenty olive trees in the foot hills of the Vaca Mountain range in Napa Valley.  As the proprietor of the Celani Family Vineyards he has chosen to bottle wine without costs becoming a consideration, to him wine is about quality and not quantity.  In fact, he was joking that he is not sure if the winery, will ever truly show a profit, because of his concern about getting the best wine each and every time. 

After the introductions to Mr. Celani, we had a rather personal wine tasting with the owner of the winery, and it really doesn’t get much better than that.  The first wine that we had was the Celani Family Vineyards Robusto Napa Valley 2018, and I had told him that I had just recently had and wrote about the Robusto 2017.  The 2017 vintage was labeled Proprietary Red Wine and so was the 2018, but Mr. Celani informed me that the 2018 was entirely Merlot and I often espouse about how much I love Merlot.  What a spectacular way to start off the tasting.  Here was a beautiful inky dark glass of Merlot that promised red fruits and spices, and delivered in spades along with a nice finish of terroir with balance tannins.  I already knew the person next to me was in love, and not just with me.

The next wine that we tasted was the Celani Family Vineyards Tenacious Estate Napa Valley Red Wine Unfiltered 2016.  I had tasted and wrote about the Tenacious 2012 and we may have a bottle or two left of it in the cellar.  When I first had the wine, I was told that it was created in the image of Le Pin and Chateau Petrus, and quite a lofty goal.  The wine is a blend of seventy percent Merlot and thirty percent Cabernet Franc.  The wine is aged in new French Oak for twenty-two months and has become their affordable signature wine.  This had a big nose of black fruit and strawberries, with a taste that was dominated originally by the black cherry, and finishing with some rich terroir and some great acidity for cellaring.  If I was crazy about the pure Merlot, the addition of the Cabernet Franc put it over the edge and created a Grand Slam and somebody was really smiling. 

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Ninety-four

Posted on February 10, 2020 by thewineraconteur

I have had the great pleasure to have a Mother-in-Law that is the antithesis to the creatures that have been portrayed on the stage, film, radio and television.  I am sure that some may be envious, but she is just a great lady and she has maintained a great sense of humor.  She is the last of her siblings and there were plenty of them, the last time that they tried to get all of the clan together, they had to rent a city park, because of the spouses, children and their spouses and the grandchildren and their spouses and the great-grandchildren.   I sometimes wonder how I remember my immediate family and she could have her own Zip Code if everyone lived in one community.  My Bride and four of her five sisters with their spouses and just a couple of the grandchildren met to celebrate their Mother’s ninety-fourth birthday and that is quite the number to achieve, especially to be in great shape in body and mind.

The sisters got together and decided on a restaurant, that I have never been to, and it is probably because I have always imagined it to be a step up from fast-food, and yes, I can be snarky about food.  We went to a place called Outback Statehouse that sounds like it should be based in Australia, but was actually conceived in Tampa, Florida and some of the dishes have “Australian” sounding tag-names. There are over a thousand locations spread across eighteen countries, including Australia.  It is a wholly owned subsidiary of the Parent Company which is named Bloomin’ Brands, named after the signature appetizer of a one-pound onion that is specially sliced and cooked and a takeoff on breaded onion rings, and it is called the Bloomin’ Onion.  I won’t try to discuss all the meals, as there was fourteen people having dinner.  I know that we ordered a Bloomin’ Onion and another appetizer called Shrimp Scampi Dip with tortilla chips, which had Parmesan and “Jack” cheeses (and doesn’t sound anything remotely what I would think of for Australia), but I have to admit they dishes were interesting.  My Bride of course, ordered their version of a Caesar Salad called the Brisbane, with a dressing not even close to her classic interpretation and topped with “Grilled Shrimp on the Barbie” which I guess refers to a barbecue grill and not the legendary statuesque doll, and she said that the dressing was very spicy and not what she expected, but she did eat it without any complaints.  I had a classic Surf & Turf, which was a Filet Mignon and a small Lobster tail with a small container of melted butter, and some grilled Asparagus and something called a Loaded Baked Potato. I have to admit that the food was better then I had expected, but not my idea of a steakhouse, but who knows, I am probably in the minority anymore. After dinner, one of the sisters had stopped at a famed bakery and got a special cheesecake for the group with a candle. 

There were an assortment of libations ordered by the attendees and my Bride decided to take the bull by the horn and order a bottle of wine, before I had a chance to see the wine carte, and I did finally find it, and I believe that there was about a dozen or  more assorted wines, and they were all priced by the glass, instead of the bottle.  We had a bottle of Ecco Domani Pinot Grigio delle Venezie DOC 2018 and this is a new designation from 2017.  The wine had thirteen percent Chardonnay, which I guess was permissible and was fermented in Stainless Steel for three weeks and then aged sur lie for two months before bottling.  The wine was a very easy and light drinking wine and was crisp and refreshing with all of the spices in the dishes.  I also ordered a glass of La Crema Sonoma Coast Pinot Noir 2017 to go with my Filet.  La Crema was originally a producer based in the Russian River Valley of Sonoma County and started in 1979 with the desire to produce Burgundy style wines, as they only produced Chardonnay and Pinot Noir.  In 1993 they were purchased by Kendall-Jackson and to their credit the winery is now known for making a quality wine at value pricing.  This particular wine is their entry level Pinot Noir for the Sonoma region and it is aged for nine months in barrels before bottling.  It is a good dependable glass of wine, balanced and easy drinking, not made for cellaring, but for drinking and enjoying immediately.

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From Mendoza to Burgundy

Posted on February 8, 2020 by thewineraconteur

Some days the tastings at The Fine Wine Source in Livonia, Michigan just never end, and I am not one to complain.  I had just finished fourteen wines from Korbin Kameron and I was directed over to try a couple of extra wines, and all I can say is that it is a good thing that I had training in the fine art of imbibing from my old neighborhood, though thankfully they are just a tasting.  There were two wines that they thought I should try, while I was there and I am always willing to try either of the two wines.

The first wine that I tried was Bodega Carmelo Patti Cabernet Franc Lujan de Cuyo 2015 and part of the Elixir Wine Group.  Lujan de Cuyo is a subregion of Argentina’s largest wine producing area of Mendoza.  It was officially recognized in 1993 as an area unique for the terroir, as the land is rich from the alluvial soils that came down from the Andes Mountains, and the hot, dry climate from the high altitude, and I have friends that swear that the only wines to drink are mountain wines.  The area is mostly known for Malbec, but it is also known for some excellent Cabernet Sauvignon wines; so I was very interested in trying a Cabernet Franc from the region, not to mention that, that particular grape can melt my dear Bride’s resistance and I am sure that they are aware of it at the shop.  Bodega Carmelo Patti is considered to be a small, rustic winery in the heart of Lujan de Cuyo.  Carmelo Patti was only a one year old when his family moved from Sicily to Argentina and he has thrived in his new country.  He is known for insisting that he won’t release a wine, until he thinks the time has arrived, so that may require four to five years after harvest.  He is also a purist, with no chemical alterations and only using native yeasts.  The wine was fermented and aged in concrete for twelve months and then moved to neutral French Oak for an additional twelve months and bottled unfined and unfiltered.  The wine was delicious and I am not sure if it is me, but I always feel that Cabernet Franc always displays more terroir in the finish compared to many other varietals.  I was a happy camper.

There was one more wine that was strongly touted for me to try Domaine Arnaud Mortet Gevrey-Chambertin 2016 from the legendary Cotes de Nuits of the Burgundy region of France.  Arnaud Mortet began his own Domaine after working for his father at Domaine Denis Mortet and his father passed away in 2006 as the winemaker. The family has holdings in several famed plots in Burgundy and he has since added more, while the Domaine Arnaud Mortet vines are young, the 2016 was his first vintage.  This wine is a mixture of parcels in the Gevrey-Chambertin region from three different quadrants.  The wine was aged in oak, but only a third was new.  This was a very chewy wine and the fruit was still quite forward, but really a beautiful finish, but I think that this wine will be excellent after some additional cellar maturation and to let it mature.  While some may want to snub this wine as it is only a “village level” offering, it was bigger than that to me and after all the wines that day, I enjoyed the finish and did not rinse it away with some water. If this was his first vintage, a couple of years down the road, this wine collection will be awesome, in my estimation.

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Korbin Kameron Estate Red Blends

Posted on February 6, 2020 by thewineraconteur

Imagine having enjoyed ten wines from Korbin Kameron and knowing that there are still four more bottles to try while I was at The Fine Wine Source in Livonia, Michigan.  Well, we already had discovered that Mitchell and Jenny Ming had twins Korbin and Kameron, but they also had a third child Kristin, who eventually became the Director of Design for Moonridge Vineyards and Korbin Kameron Vineyards.  Kristin has the honor of having inspired Cuvée Kristin. 

While the last nine wines that we had tasted were either Merlot or Cabernet Sauvignon, the next and final four wines that we tried were Blended Red Wines, and all carried the Sonoma Valley AVA.  These wines also were aged in French Oak, of which seventy percent were new and aged for eighteen months. The Korbin Kameron Estate Blend Red Wine Cuvée Kristin 2007 was thirty-one percent Cabernet Sauvignon, twenty-eight percent Merlot, nineteen percent Cabernet Franc, thirteen percent Malbec and nine percent Petit Verdot.  There were seven-hundred-sixty cases made and this wine was a big Bordeaux style wine and the additional aging even made it more elegant and I wrote “wow” and I know that I will be drummed out of the wine bloggers group for that erudite description.  The Korbin Kameron Estate Blend Red Wine Cuvée Kristin 2009 was a blend of thirty-nine percent Merlot, twenty-five percent Cabernet Franc, eighteen percent Malbec, nine percent Petit Verdot and nine percent Cabernet Sauvignon.  This wine had three-hundred-fifty cases made and I had written Pomerol/ Saint-Emilion, because it was more elegant and the tannins and spices were just so pleasing.  The Korbin Kameron Estate Blend Red Wine Cuvée Kristin 2011 was thirty percent Cabernet Sauvignon, twenty percent Petit Verdot, twenty percent Malbec, seventeen percent Merlot and thirteen percent Cabernet Franc.  There were two-hundred cases made of this wine and it was a big chewy red that would stain your teeth and have you wanting more.  As you can see, these were not repetitive of prior vintages and they were looking for the best qualities of the grapes to shine.

The last wine of the tasting I separated, not so much because it was different from the other three, but the labeling had changed and I thought it worthy to mention.  The last wine we tasted was the Korbin Kameron Proprietary Red Wine “Kristin” Moon Mountain District AVA 2015.  The wine had a new name and a new designation.  This blend was forty percent Cabernet Sauvignon, thirty percent Petit Verdot, twelve percent Cabernet Franc, twelve percent Malbec and six percent Merlot.  There were one-hundred-twenty-four cases produced and I detected more black fruits, spice and a bit more terroir.  Of the blends there really was not a bad wine as they were each so distinct, but I was really impressed with the 2009 vintage, but I was in the minority once again with the group that I was tasting with.

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Korbin Kameron Merlots and Cabs

Posted on February 4, 2020 by thewineraconteur

A nice afternoon of wine tasting with Korbin Ming of Korbin Kameron Vineyards and Moonridge Vineyards at my local wine shop The Fine Wine Source in Livonia, Michigan.  I have had the good fortune to have tried and bought some wines from Korbin Kameron in the past, but this by far was the biggest tasting that I have had.  They were pouring and offering wines that were both current and from their Library, as there was a vertical tasting of four Merlot wines, and a vertical tasting of five Cabernet Sauvignon wines. 

We started the red wines with a selection of their Merlot wines.  The years of the vertical run of the Korbin Kameron Merlot, Moon Mountain District AVA was 2007, 2009 2011 and 2015.  The Moon Mountain AVA is a very new subregion of the Sonoma Valley, as it was only awarded status in 2013.  The wines were all aged for eighteen months in French Oak, of which half was new.  Production of the wine averaged around three-hundred cases each year and easily ten plus years of cellaring would be wonderful.  I am and have always been partial to Merlot wines since my teens, and these were some of the best Merlot wines that I have had with a nose of red fruits and spice, with a taste of lush cherries and they all had a charming silky tannin finish.  At first, I thought maybe there was something wrong with me, as everyone was gushing about the 2015, but I just wrapped my arms around the 2007 as I thought it delivered the biggest bang of flavors and sensory temptations.   The finish on the 2007 just would not end, and I am glad that I nursed it, before going on to the newer vintages. 

After all of the lovely Merlot wines, I had to have some hefty swigs of water before I went with the Cabs.  Once again there was a vertical run of the Korbin Kameron Cabernet Sauvignon, Moon Mountain District AVA and we tasted the 2006, 2008, 2010, 2014 and 2015 vintages.  These wines, just like the Merlot wines were aged for eighteen months in French Oak, of which half were new.  There was an average production of about six-hundred cases of each vintage.  This was a big wine, a big bold Cabernet Sauvignon.  They were all impeccable with a nose promising dark fruits and spices, black cherry took center stage on the taste and big tannins to finish with, and I really did not expect anything less.  They were well made wines and my tasting notes hardly had any variations, but once again, the crowd around me, were going for the newest vintage and I was enraptured by the 2006, as I thought the taste was more rounded.  Perhaps I am just enjoying my wines a bit more mellow, or maybe I am mellowing, but I am sure that you can guess what I was leaving home with.

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A Tasting With Korbin Ming

Posted on February 2, 2020 by thewineraconteur

A little while ago, I had the good fortune to do a tasting with Korbin Ming of Korbin Kameron Vineyard at The Fine Wine Source of Livonia, my go-to wine shop.  Mitchell Ming first started drinking California wines in the Seventies and fell in love with the area after his first trip to Napa Valley.  Unlike others, that only dream, he took his family out there and settled on a homestead high up on Mount Veeder and now has one-hundred-eighty-six acres for his family endeavor.  His home over looks acres and acres of rolling hills and so high that it is sometimes above the clouds.  Out of this, he created Moonridge Vineyards and the winery is named after his two twin children Korbin and Kameron.  The third child Kristin, who is the Director of Design has also been remembered at the winery as well.

Korbin Ming is the Wine Club Manager, and the tasting was conducted by Korbin Ming who wears many hats, when he isn’t wearing a knit ski cap to brave the weather of Michigan.  Korbin is the General Manager, the Vineyard Manager and the Assistant Winemaker; just in case he was hoping to have some time for himself.  He received his B.S. from Boston University in Hospitality Management and established the brand’s e-commerce and distribution markets.  He slowly became more of a hands-on guy at the winery in the vineyard and the cellar, which eventually let to a Master’s Degree in Viticulture & Enology from UC Davis.  He worked harvests in Bordeaux, Sonoma, Sierra Foothills and then Napa, before returning to Korbin Kameron and Moonridge Vineyards.

Well during that afternoon, there were fourteen wines being poured and sampled, but I maintained my resolve to make sure that I reported the wines to you.  I will start out with the first wine, which is a good place to begin, but it was also the only one like it being offered.  We had the Korbin Kameron Rosé 2018 from the Moon Mountain District AVA and part of the much larger Sonoma Valley.  Moon Mountain has volcanic origins and the iron rich soil is quite distinct from the other soils in the valley, it also has a longer growing season because of the elevation and the additional warmth; and the AVA status was awarded in 2013, which is quite new, so very few wines have taken advantage of it, and it may take some time for the public as well.  The wine is pure Merlot and was aged for five months in neutral oak to keep the fruit fresh.  There were only one-hundred-twenty-five cases of this wine produced.  With it being Merlot, the fruit was bigger and more enjoyable immediately to me, as I have always been partial to that grape from my teens, and I guess some things never change.  It was very well balanced, big with red fruit and a nice finish.  A great harbinger for the wines to follow.

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Mesa Del Sol Syrah

Posted on January 31, 2020 by thewineraconteur

The last of the three wines that I received from “A Taste of Monterey” is from Mesa Del Sol and this is the third wine that I have received from this winery.  Years ago, when we discovered this wine club in the Cannery Row section of Monterey, we were actually killing some time, shopping and discovering what we could before dining at the famed and historic restaurant The Sardine Factory, and if you are in the area, I would highly recommend dining there.  Anyways, getting back to the wine club, at the time they offered us a choice of two different wine club packages, one with two wines shipped monthly that were more of the popular price category and the other was the Reserve Wine Selections that sends us three bottles of wine four times a year, and this is wine that we would never be able to get in Michigan. 

Mesa Del Sol Estate Retreat & Winery is located on an upland promontory at the junction of three major watersheds, and has been a favorite place for travelers for over a century.  There is a small stone water house and a portion of one of the cabins that date back to the 1800’s and it is believed to be a stop for the overland conveyance from the Mission San Antonio to the Carmel Valley.  The hot dry air of the Arroyo Seco Highlands became a health center for those suffering from tuberculosis and other similar ailments.  One of the more prominent visitors back then was Teddy Roosevelt.  In 1927, a California Senator Fred Weybret purchased the property for his family and the new main home was built in 1936, and the family resided there until his death in 1945.  The property then was purchased by a noted lettuce baron from Salinas, who named the property Mesa Del Sol, adding more buildings, gardens and a pool for his family.  In 1998 another Salinas agricultural family purchased the property, they planted the vineyards and a trout pond was reinstalled.  Since the gentleman’s death his widow has continued to restore the fourteen-acre vineyard estate, won awards for the wines and also has crops of fragrant Provence Lavender that is used in sachets, lotions and oils. 

We have received two other wines of this estate, their Primo Rosso and their Zinfandel, and now we have their Mesa Del Sol Syrah Arroyo Seco 2014.  The winery leaves no information about their wines, other than a limited advertising statement referring this as “the Marilyn Monroe of wines; voluptuous and luscious, with nice structure and lots of legs.  Big ripe cherry, blackberry blast with hints of pepper, sage, eucalyptus and mocha.  Velvety tannins and a long, well-rounded finish.”  Most of you know that I do not write about wines like that.  Now until the next batch of wines from my club. 

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Scott Family Estate Pinot Noir

Posted on January 29, 2020 by thewineraconteur

I never get an advance notice on what wines we are to expect from “A Taste of Monterey” a wine club that we joined years ago, on our first trip to Carmel-by-the-Sea.  I realize that most people just refer to the city as Carmel, but I enjoy the quaintness of the real name.  I am getting side tracked already, which is not that uncommon.  Carmel is known for many things to a myriad of people, and besides the celebrities, the city is known as an art colony, though you better be quite an accomplished artist to reside there.  The funny thing is that we have never bought any art work in Carmel, but as we wondered around Monterey, even before we found our wine club, we found a piece of art that has the premier center of attention in our home. 

Through the efforts of “A Taste of Monterey” and their Reserve Wine Selections we have encountered the Scott Family Estate wines from Arroyo Secco (Dry Creek) AVA, a sub region of Monterey County.  The funny thing is that Scott Family Estate is from Carneros in Napa Valley and is actually part of the much larger Rutherford Ranch Winery of Napa Valley, and they actually have a total of nine different labels and the wines can be tasted at their tasting room in Rutherford, Napa Valley. 

The Scott Family Estate Pinot Noir Arroyo Secco 2017 is actually our first Pinot Noir from them, as I have had two distinct vintages of their Arroyo Secco Chardonnay and they also produce a Chardonnay from Carneros in the Napa Valley, but I have never had it.  As you may have noticed I have discussed a couple of areas in Monterey that produce great varietals that one normally associates with the Burgundy region of France.  The growing season in the Arroyo Secco is usually a couple of weeks longer than in Napa, and it is perfect for the finicky Pinot Noir grape.  The entire estate vineyard is planted with Dijon Clone Pinot Noir and this wine has been aged for ten months in a mixture of French and American Oak.  The tasting notes promise a well-balanced wine with bright acidity, with a nose of cherry and sage, a taste of cherry and berries, vanilla spice, silky tannins and a nice long finish.  All of the right notes have been mentioned and Pinot Noir wines are very popular in this house and it will not go to waste.  

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Cima Collina Merlot/Cabernet Sauvignon

Posted on January 27, 2020 by thewineraconteur

Normally when I get a new shipment from my wine club “A Taste of Monterey” is always a good time.  Unfortunately as I am finally getting around to writing about some wines that arrived in December, I find that the winery has closed down, there was no mention about it, in the newsletter from the club, but I went to their website and to their Facebook page and both had announcement that they were shut down, with no further explanations, other than it was an enjoyable experience for them. 

Through my membership, I have received three other wines from this winery; Chardonnay Tondre Grapefield 2012, Meritage Lockwood Oaks Vineyard San Antonio Valley AVA 2010 and a Private Reserve Pinot Noir Santa Lucia Highlands 2007.  Their first harvest was in 2005 and that they were old school, in that they harvested by hand and used a mix of new and used French Oak barrels.  Another interesting side note, and things that I really enjoy learning about, was that their tasting room was once the post office for Carmel Valley.  I am sure that this may be the last bottle of wine that I discuss from this winery, unless my club buys up the remaining inventory, which I know that they have done in the past. 

In 2001, Dick Lumpkin, a business man and resident of Carmel Valley planted three acres of Pinot Noir and a half acre of Pinot Gris on his Hilltop Ranch.  He then contacted Annette Hoff to nurture the new winery and she has been with the winery since then.  In 2017 he also had a chance to buy some fruit from the Heller Vineyard that has been organically farmed since the ‘70’s. The Cima Collina Heller Merlot/Cabernet Sauvignon Carmel Valley 2017 is a blend of fifty-four percent Merlot and the balance is Cabernet Sauvignon.  There was a total production of three-hundred-twenty-seven cases of wine.  The aging potential for this wine is suggested for ten to fifteen years, by the time of maturity the wine will be long gone.  I do hope that there will be another winery to take their place in the future.

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